Comments on: Disingenuous Rhetorical Manipulation http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/ My opinions only. I do not represent any organization in this publication. Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:53:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mike Linksvayer » DRM: the good bullshit story that got past Doug Morris http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-96959 Mike Linksvayer » DRM: the good bullshit story that got past Doug Morris Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:04:46 +0000 http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-96959 [...] turns even really smart technologists into disingenuous and even dangerous technology idiots (including me on occasion — the claims I dismissed in [...] [...] turns even really smart technologists into disingenuous and even dangerous technology idiots (including me on occasion — the claims I dismissed in [...]

]]> By: gurdonark http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89439 gurdonark Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:16:15 +0000 http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89439 Thanks, Mike. One thing I love about mixter is that it's really expanded me from a more "pure" ambient listener into someone who now appreciates chill, downtempo, and others of the "upstart" electronica genres, because so many of them are so well-represented on mixter. I enjoyed putting a playlist together to spotlight some of those, although my favorite mixter remix of all is none of those genres, but Pat Chilla's wonderful "Brilliant Daze". I'm glad that neither of us has contended that CC is the sun, the moon and the stars, and, for that matter, that no third voice has arisen to point out, with force, that open source is the entire, infinite universe. Thanks, Mike. One thing I love about mixter is that it’s really expanded me from a more “pure” ambient listener into someone who now appreciates chill, downtempo, and others of the “upstart” electronica genres, because so many of them are so well-represented on mixter.
I enjoyed putting a playlist together to spotlight some of those, although
my favorite mixter remix of all is none of those genres, but Pat Chilla’s wonderful “Brilliant Daze”.

I’m glad that neither of us has contended that CC is the sun, the moon and the stars, and, for that matter, that no third voice has arisen to point out, with force, that open source is the entire, infinite universe.

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89435 Mike Linksvayer Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:43:18 +0000 http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89435 p.s. gurdonark, listening to your <a href="http://ccmixter.org/media/playlist/browse/46" rel="nofollow">songs to love</a> right now, great choices. p.s. gurdonark, listening to your songs to love right now, great choices.

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89434 Mike Linksvayer Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:41:54 +0000 http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89434 But CC is moderate and you already established Mercury and Saturn as radical. :) Sol is pure thought, or something like that. But CC is moderate and you already established Mercury and Saturn as radical. :)

Sol is pure thought, or something like that.

]]> By: gurdonark http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89419 gurdonark Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:05:32 +0000 http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89419 I believe a true loyalist would suggest that CC is the sun itself :) I believe a true loyalist would suggest that CC is the sun itself :)

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89409 Mike Linksvayer Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:34:27 +0000 http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89409 CC is Venus, Earth, Mars, and Jupiter. :) CC is Venus, Earth, Mars, and Jupiter. :)

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89407 Mike Linksvayer Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:18:40 +0000 http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89407 Mercury is the IP debate, Saturn is the DRM debate, Pluto is the music industry trying to justify its current business model in spite of the fact it doesn't measure up. :) Mercury is the IP debate, Saturn is the DRM debate, Pluto is the music industry trying to justify its current business model in spite of the fact it doesn’t measure up. :)

]]> By: gurdonark http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89406 gurdonark Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:01:30 +0000 http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/10/dr-mpeg/#comment-89406 I think you make a good point here. Although I don't want to be too quick to draw a universal from a specific situation, I often find that DRM discussions tend to get confused by a few folks who want to have the debate about whether proprietary rights in IP generally should exist at all. They're somewhat of the same genre, I suppose, in the same way that Mercury and Saturn are both planets (and I am still mourning Pluto), but I rarely find it useful when someone wants to debate the general proposition that some hold to the effect that "all IP 'rights' should be abolished, and therefore everything not consistent with tihs theory is DRM" under the guise of a DRM debate, as opposed to the very real and specific proposition about the wisdom of DRM as it is used in the music industry today. I think you make a good point here. Although I don’t want to be too quick to draw a universal from a specific situation, I often find that DRM discussions tend to get confused by a few folks who want to have the debate about whether proprietary rights in IP generally should exist at all. They’re somewhat of the same genre, I suppose, in the same way that Mercury and Saturn are both planets (and I am still mourning Pluto), but I rarely find it useful when someone wants to debate the general proposition that some hold to the effect that “all IP ‘rights’ should be abolished, and therefore everything not consistent with tihs theory is DRM” under the guise of a DRM debate, as opposed to the very real and specific proposition about the wisdom of DRM as it is used in the music industry today.

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