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		<title>By: Mike Linksvayer</title>
		<link>http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/13/godin-outrage/#comment-89555</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Linksvayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Lucas really crammed his sarcasm in the last microsecond of that video - and I missed it the first time round.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed -- and understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lucas really crammed his sarcasm in the last microsecond of that video - and I missed it the first time round.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed &#8212; and understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
		<link>http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/13/godin-outrage/#comment-89553</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please watch the video again. You completely missed the point.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I was hoping you wouldn't notice. :-/

I realised my error after posting.

Lucas really crammed his sarcasm in the last microsecond of that video - and I missed it the first time round.

I thought I was getting it in the first 95%, i.e. sell at $5, and suffer the jealousy that someone else can make $20, vs not sell at $20 and remain poor.

And then, I don't know why, but he seemed so earnest in the final 5% about wanting a cut of any ad revenue, that I completely overlooked the possibility of hyposarcasm.

&lt;i&gt;Mea culpa.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please watch the video again. You completely missed the point.</p></blockquote>
<p>I was hoping you wouldn&#8217;t notice. :-/</p>
<p>I realised my error after posting.</p>
<p>Lucas really crammed his sarcasm in the last microsecond of that video - and I missed it the first time round.</p>
<p>I thought I was getting it in the first 95%, i.e. sell at $5, and suffer the jealousy that someone else can make $20, vs not sell at $20 and remain poor.</p>
<p>And then, I don&#8217;t know why, but he seemed so earnest in the final 5% about wanting a cut of any ad revenue, that I completely overlooked the possibility of hyposarcasm.</p>
<p><i>Mea culpa.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Linksvayer</title>
		<link>http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/13/godin-outrage/#comment-89550</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Linksvayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Evidently, Lucas still hasn’t achieved enlightenment out of the CC-SA-NC ghetto.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please watch the video again. You completely missed the point.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder how popular GPL software would have been if it stipulated a royalty for any commercial use?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The GPL did have competition from "shareware" and the like that can be seen as roughly equivalent to NC licenses, and won. My thoughts on the matter &lt;a href="http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2006-January/003116.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Evidently, Lucas still hasn’t achieved enlightenment out of the CC-SA-NC ghetto.</p></blockquote>
<p>Please watch the video again. You completely missed the point.</p>
<blockquote><p>I wonder how popular GPL software would have been if it stipulated a royalty for any commercial use?</p></blockquote>
<p>The GPL did have competition from &#8220;shareware&#8221; and the like that can be seen as roughly equivalent to NC licenses, and won. My thoughts on the matter <a href="http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2006-January/003116.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
		<link>http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/02/13/godin-outrage/#comment-89548</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidently, Lucas still hasn't achieved enlightenment out of the CC-SA-NC ghetto.

The big question for me is: was it a good or bad idea to create the 'NC' qualifier in the first place?

If it hadn't been created, people would have invented it or taken a lot longer to migrate to CC and then to CC-SA, or, being created, CC-SA-NC is a stepping stone that gets folk slightly closer, slightly sooner to CC-SA.

There are people like Lucas who have grown up with copyright who still think they have a right to control what people do with their art (or get a cut of ad revenue) - even if they are ready to embrace p2p promotion.

The thing is, &lt;i&gt;ceteris paribus&lt;/i&gt;, which do people value more? An aggregation service that has ads, or one that doesn't?

One can assume that a preference can only exist for an ad based service because it is a better funded service - and consequently that revenue accrues because of its superior service - and not because of the quality of the art it serves - assuming the art is royalty free.

Looking at it from another perspective. If you have an audience of a million, which art would you prefer to air? Art with royalty, or art without? And the corollary: is there a shortage of artists willing to provide royalty free art in exchange for promotion to an audience of a million?

If the artist feels their art has value, they can sell it to their audience. The bigger their audience, the bigger their revenue. Once sold, the art can be royalty free - and hence more attractive to aggregators/broadcasters.

I wonder how popular GPL software would have been if it stipulated a royalty for any commercial use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidently, Lucas still hasn&#8217;t achieved enlightenment out of the CC-SA-NC ghetto.</p>
<p>The big question for me is: was it a good or bad idea to create the &#8216;NC&#8217; qualifier in the first place?</p>
<p>If it hadn&#8217;t been created, people would have invented it or taken a lot longer to migrate to CC and then to CC-SA, or, being created, CC-SA-NC is a stepping stone that gets folk slightly closer, slightly sooner to CC-SA.</p>
<p>There are people like Lucas who have grown up with copyright who still think they have a right to control what people do with their art (or get a cut of ad revenue) - even if they are ready to embrace p2p promotion.</p>
<p>The thing is, <i>ceteris paribus</i>, which do people value more? An aggregation service that has ads, or one that doesn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>One can assume that a preference can only exist for an ad based service because it is a better funded service - and consequently that revenue accrues because of its superior service - and not because of the quality of the art it serves - assuming the art is royalty free.</p>
<p>Looking at it from another perspective. If you have an audience of a million, which art would you prefer to air? Art with royalty, or art without? And the corollary: is there a shortage of artists willing to provide royalty free art in exchange for promotion to an audience of a million?</p>
<p>If the artist feels their art has value, they can sell it to their audience. The bigger their audience, the bigger their revenue. Once sold, the art can be royalty free - and hence more attractive to aggregators/broadcasters.</p>
<p>I wonder how popular GPL software would have been if it stipulated a royalty for any commercial use?</p>
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