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	<title>Comments on: Conjectured impact of Wikipedia license interoperability?</title>
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		<title>By: 5 years of version 3.0 of Creative Commons licenses &#8211; Mike Linksvayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 years of version 3.0 of Creative Commons licenses &#8211; Mike Linksvayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the most important developments that 3.0 contributed to were the adoption of CC-BY-SA as the primary license used by Wikimedia projects and the use of various CC licenses [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wikipedia + CC BY-SA = Free Culture Win! - Creative Commons</title>
		<link>http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2009/05/31/wikipedia-migration-impact/#comment-100328</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikipedia + CC BY-SA = Free Culture Win! - Creative Commons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is enabling content to flow between Wikipedia and other projects. Will you interoperate? See a post on my personal blog for a long-winded conjecture about long-term impacts of the licensing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is enabling content to flow between Wikipedia and other projects. Will you interoperate? See a post on my personal blog for a long-winded conjecture about long-term impacts of the licensing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Linksvayer *himself* is to blame for the non-liquidity of his Wikipedia prediction markets. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Linksvayer *himself* is to blame for the non-liquidity of his Wikipedia prediction markets. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mike Linksvayer *himself* is to blame for the non-liquidity of his Wikipedia prediction markets.   Written by Chris F. Masse on June 5, 2009 &#8212; Leave a Comment     Mike Linksvayer: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mike Linksvayer *himself* is to blame for the non-liquidity of his Wikipedia prediction markets.   Written by Chris F. Masse on June 5, 2009 &mdash; Leave a Comment     Mike Linksvayer: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Linksvayer</title>
		<link>http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2009/05/31/wikipedia-migration-impact/#comment-100303</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Linksvayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Seth,

I almost appended &quot; -- but see the Mac shareware scene&quot; to the sentence you quoted, but decided people shelling out for desktop doodads is uninteresting. Kind of the way ringtones seem uninteresting for music, even if they rake in huge amounts of money. Perhaps I&#039;m just plain wrong to think free software has marginalized cheap (as in price) non-free software. That&#039;s not even counting &quot;app markets&quot; for various phones...

I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right about fragmentation and attendant variation among computer cultures.

Over the longer term, what is the significance of free/open source software in the Apple universe vs say 10 years ago? Change relative to other platforms/cultures? I have no idea, just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Seth,</p>
<p>I almost appended &#8221; &#8212; but see the Mac shareware scene&#8221; to the sentence you quoted, but decided people shelling out for desktop doodads is uninteresting. Kind of the way ringtones seem uninteresting for music, even if they rake in huge amounts of money. Perhaps I&#8217;m just plain wrong to think free software has marginalized cheap (as in price) non-free software. That&#8217;s not even counting &#8220;app markets&#8221; for various phones&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right about fragmentation and attendant variation among computer cultures.</p>
<p>Over the longer term, what is the significance of free/open source software in the Apple universe vs say 10 years ago? Change relative to other platforms/cultures? I have no idea, just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Schoen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Schoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on this development.  I think it will be a great thing for Wikimedia and CC.

You wrote &quot;shareware and similar obvious competitors for important free software niches are strategically irrelevant&quot;.

I&#039;m kind of amazed by the continuing vitality of shareware for Mac OS X. I&#039;ve noticed an enormous difference in this area -- anecdotally -- where Linux users expect to be able to sudo apt-get install everthing and Mac OS X users are rarely aware of whether or how the source code for programs they use has been published.  It seems that there are a large number of small software companies successfully publishing Mac OS shareware.

I have known Mac OS users to purchase shareware with a Cocoa GUI to do tasks for which there was some mainstream free software readily available.  I don&#039;t know exactly why they decided to do that (packaging? marketing? comfort with Cocoa? discomfort with the command line or X or compilers or dependencies? habit? word of mouth?) but it mades me think that it&#039;s too early to say that free software has outcompeted shareware.

I think computer cultures are more than a little bit fragmented, so some things that seem obvious and routine to some groups are completely unfamiliar to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on this development.  I think it will be a great thing for Wikimedia and CC.</p>
<p>You wrote &#8220;shareware and similar obvious competitors for important free software niches are strategically irrelevant&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of amazed by the continuing vitality of shareware for Mac OS X. I&#8217;ve noticed an enormous difference in this area &#8212; anecdotally &#8212; where Linux users expect to be able to sudo apt-get install everthing and Mac OS X users are rarely aware of whether or how the source code for programs they use has been published.  It seems that there are a large number of small software companies successfully publishing Mac OS shareware.</p>
<p>I have known Mac OS users to purchase shareware with a Cocoa GUI to do tasks for which there was some mainstream free software readily available.  I don&#8217;t know exactly why they decided to do that (packaging? marketing? comfort with Cocoa? discomfort with the command line or X or compilers or dependencies? habit? word of mouth?) but it mades me think that it&#8217;s too early to say that free software has outcompeted shareware.</p>
<p>I think computer cultures are more than a little bit fragmented, so some things that seem obvious and routine to some groups are completely unfamiliar to others.</p>
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		<title>By: mlinksva's status on Monday, 01-Jun-09 03:23:01 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlinksva's status on Monday, 01-Jun-09 03:23:01 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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